Talk:AP Event One

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Forum for discussing the movie

Hey, folks. Please feel free to post your reaction to the movie. What did you like, what did you not like about the movie? Did it represent science accurately or misrepresent it to make its points?

Entertaining But Possibly Misleading

I think that the movie does a good job of making quantum physics easier to understand for those who aren't as knowledgeable about science and math. Although, considering quantum mechanics is a fairly fuzzy subject, I think that it's misleading for them to give such definite answers about things. For example, they made very strong statements about how God is not a distinct, separate entity. But the truth is that we just don't know. P.S. That one lady with the accent was frightening.

that was katie by the way

agree with Katie

I agree that the boundaries of quantum mechanics were not elucidtated. To use it to make strong claims about the nature of God, for instance, seems to me completely misguided.

Further, I think it did not really touch upon the full mystery that Q.M. does present to us in a systematic way. I think we will probably hear more on this from a certain colleague of mine (hint, Kerry) ...

Lars.

P.S. I also thought that JZ Knight/Ramtha was scary. Apparently she is channeling Ramtha ...

I agree...

I agree with almost all of the scientists viewpoints in the movie. I find these things to be true in my life, especially the comments regarding religion. I feel that there is no one "god" or diety ruling over us all. Each pf us creates our own reality, and thus governs our own fate. It's sort of like the Matrix, there is no fate only cause and effect. I know that this is a very pragmatic way of looking at the world. I like it that way of looking at things. That way you can sort of step back and look at things objectivly, because in essence you are not attached to them.

And yes, the lady in the red shirt thing is very creepy...

The power of the mind

The one thing I really found quite captivating about the movie was the notion that several of the experts acknowledged that it is possible to change the world around you with a simple thought/realization. Obviously, this ties into Buddhism quite well, where purification of the mind leads to a freedom from suffering. I find it interesting that a religion and a science can actually say the same thing, or rather, close to the same thing, about something. After all, the two are so different, science is usually based upon concrete facts, where religion is based on the mind. Here, however, quantum mechanics and Buddhism seme to cross paths, at least partially in terms of the mind.

There is one discrepancy I could find in "What the bleep" in relation to Buddhism...It separates us as inidivduals to a high extent. For some reason, when watching it (especiially the guy in the purple shirt being interviewed in a log cabin), I kept hearing the idea of self reliance and individualism. Each human can bend his or her own reality, etc. I felt that there wasn't a connection there to the kindness ideal (the idea that we are all products of other's kindness). Especially considering that they had an individual's life journey isolated to an extent... i do respect a movie that uses scientific fact to relate to religion, however.

And yes, there is a general concensus... the lady in the red is very creepy... not to mention a transgressor of the sin of TMI (Too Much Information).

-Matt

What the Bleep.

I actually looked ramtha up and apparently it's some sort of school to reach enlightenment? I know what's so freaky about that lady: it's her eyes, she does weird gestures with them.

As for the movie in general, I found it rather... interesting. The beginning was especially informative, and I agree, they did draw rather "disconcerting" conclusions about god near the end. I actually agree with the thought that there is no separate entity which is "god", but it was a bit strong, especially considering the movie is meant for people with a superficial knowledge, at best, of quantum mechanics. To people who are not studying the specific course we are, even to some of us, I think, it was a bit out there.

The storyline could get chaotic and nonsensical, but most of the time it did make nice connections with the parallel scientific explanations. Sometimes they jumped from subject to subject so radically that the movie counted on the story for transitions, albeit not very smooth ones.

All in all, it was interesting and entertaining, and above all very informative, but not to be taken completely at face value, especially when they venture into theological territory. This is Andrea, by the way. Sorry about the long comment.

i don't know. i thought the movie was kind of silly in the way ideas were illustrated, however, this made certain points memorable that would have probably been overlooked. otherwise though, i thought the concepts were interesting and the people being interviewed seemed knowledgable- i just wish they would have talked more in depth about the ideas they covered instead of just reiterating most of the same points. it seemed like they would be discussing something like parallel realities and then just as soon switch to a completely different topic. because of this, i feel like i didnt get a better understanding of physics simply by watching this movie; i've only just been hit with names of random experiments (like the water crystals) and general quantum physics terms. i think there is more to it than that (kate sokol)